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    • bill
      Top reader of all time
      4 years ago

      This is dystopian. Required reading if you're in the Bay Area. This is the official "Shelter in Place" order, aka ORDER OF THE HEALTH OFFICER No. C19-07

      Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both.

      OK. So, right off the bat, we know the ground rules. They can take our money and put us in jail. Welcome to 1984.

      The intent of this Order is to ensure that the maximum number of people self-isolate in their places of residence to the maximum extent feasible, while enabling essential services to continue, to slow the spread of COVID-19 to the maximum extent possible.

      Okay. I get it. But this isn’t part of the contract that I want to have with my government. It infringes on my most basic human right - the right to move about the land, as I please, without explanation or permission.

      Nothing in this Order prohibits the gathering of members of a household or living unit.

      Wow. The fact that this even needs to be clarified is stunning. Beyond dystopian!

      People must use public transit only for purposes of performing Essential Activities or to travel to and from work to operate Essential Businesses or maintain Essential Governmental Functions.

      Are we all reading this, people?

      Because even people without symptoms can transmit the disease, and because evidence shows the disease is easily spread, gatherings can result in preventable transmission of the virus.

      I get it, but still - NO!! Driving in cars can result in preventable accidents. Flying in planes can result in preventable crashes. That doesn't mean we make cars and planes illegal. THIS IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT.

      this Order helps preserve critical and limited healthcare capacity in the County.

      What a caper! First the Bureaucrats drop the cage on us, and then, in the same document, a quick reminder that they can't uphold their end of the bargain: provide basic health services.

      canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supply, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products, and products necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences.

      Meaningless details. This is how people write when they don't want you to really read something. They make it long and boring.

      In the United States, freedom has always been more of an ideal than a reality, but now it really seems to be slipping away. The capitalization of "Essential" really puts shivers down my spine. The quintessence of Doublespeak - the invention of a new word. We're bigger than our authoritarian impulses, people. We’re rugged. We're individualists. We’re innovators. We just need to pay attention, or all of this might slip away.

      • Jank4 years ago

        This shit is no joke Bill! In Brooklyn we cross the paths of 1000’s of people who cross the paths of 1000’s of people and so on forever. People are getting sick, people don’t know they are getting people sick, and there is a lack of information and understanding in a lot of individuals who need to visually see a shift to begin changing their practices. Strict Social distance and isolation practices are the only way we are going to get back to normal. The only way closed businesses that haven’t yet thrown in the towel have a shot at reopening, the only way we are going to get to see vulnerable loved ones, and the only way we can all just feel fucking free again! Think as if we as humans are members of one global team, working together to push through this by doing our part in keeping our germs to ourselves so we can Hopefully achieve freedom and prosperity. I know the individualist in us all aches, but it’s the only way! It’s working in China, 100% facts, my guy!

        • bill
          Top reader of all time
          4 years ago

          Think as if we as humans are members of one global team, working together to push through this by doing our part in keeping our germs to ourselves

          Yes! I’m with you! I’ve been solidly, physically isolated for almost 5 days, with only two trips to Safeway, which is walkable. I’m all about flattening the curve. I think I’ve walked about ten miles per day because I’m a quarter mile from the woods where I can get on the trails and just sit and look at trees and sky. (Thank God!)

          My life is on wheels and I’m always moving and always outside. So when society “freezes” and “closes in” it makes things particularly challenging. I perpetually rely on kindness and hospitality from others. I’ve come to a grinding halt, as anyone would during a global crisis, but I’m still severely freaked that we’re seeing a new, more authoritarian norms, from both parties. That would be a horrible post Coronavirus reality. If we allow some humans (the government ones, with power) to tell other humans when they can and can’t go outside. That’s a nightmare that’s distinct from the virus itself.

          I don’t think it’s safe for any humans to be inside like this. If you lock a plant/animal/human inside, away from the sun, it will die. I’m looking out over a huge hillside community right now with thousands of homes and I’m thinking, “if these humans don’t get out, for months, our collective health is going to plummet. This nightmare has only just begun.”

      • joanne4 years ago

        It’s beginning to feel real. Our little island of Key West is all but shut down. We took a fifteen minute ride north to Stock Island and it’s business as usual (almost, restaurants and bars had to limit to 50 percent capacity) . Hard to decipher what makes sense and what is over reach. It is beginning to feel a little 1984ish. Doublespeak is all around us. I want leadership that I can trust and that seems to be slipping out of our reach. We’re trying to do the “right” thing and maybe that’s to get on a plane and return to NJ. Be safe and try to get outside and breathe.

    • jbuchana4 years ago

      This is almost exactly the same order we just received in Howard County (Kokomo) Indiana. Our order doesn't go into quite as much detail, but it's pretty close. We don't have a fancy name like "Shelter in Place" either, we're just calling it an orange level advisory. It starts on Friday at 5:00 pm. We've been under a yellow advisory since Monday at 5:00 pm. The only difference between a yellow and an orange advisory here is that, apparently, they can try to enforce an orange advisory. Most people and businesses were ignoring the yellow advisory, when I was at work yesterday. We had just as much business as usual. i do work in what is legally considered a hardware store, so it's an "essential service" No one was using us as an essential service though, people just wanted to buy cheap tools and get free blue flashlights. The nail spa, tanning company, and gym next to us were open and busy despite the yellow advisory saying they shouldn't have been. Nobody paid any attention, and unless they start arresting people, I doubt they will pay attention to the orange advisory. I have very mixed feelings about that.

      • bill
        Top reader of all time
        4 years ago

        No one was using us as an essential service though, people just wanted to buy cheap tools and get free blue flashlights.

        That cracked me up. What's the most "Essential" way to use a hardware store during a pandemic?

        • Jank4 years ago

          If your sink, bathroom, or any utilities go on the fritz and you need to repair them without opting to have people come in to do the job for you (at least 7x confirmed covid positive nyc CON ED people have been entering thousands of homes here). Ironically as I was checking out of our local hardware store, the owner told me he was from the famous New Rochelle (New York COVID ground zero) and commutes daily from his residence that lies just outside the quarantine zone. He said he may occasionally do the drive through testing for peace of mind but hasn’t yet. Shows how vulnerable everyone is who is not taking precautions.

        • jbuchana4 years ago

          We sold a bunch of supplies to the fire department and a pump to someone whose basement was flooded, so I suppose I was exaggerating by saying none, but two out of dozens of transactions aren't really very many.