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    The New York Times CompanyMATT FLEGENHEIMER7/1/2124 min
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    The New York Times Company
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    • jeff
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      10 months ago

      The question now, as Mr. Rogan settles into his kingmaking phase, is how he might like to use his capital. He does seem to like the idea of people coming to him, in every sense, and the power that flows from commanding a platform so large that even those who might feel more comfortable elsewhere — elected officials, scientists, the occasional journalist — recognize that ignoring him would be irresponsible.

      In a recent episode Rogan said that he was approached to interview Trump three times but refused to do it since Trump's handlers wouldn't acquiesce to the show's standard format. I feel like it's a good thing for all of us if more politicians feel pressure to sit down for long, unedited, conversational-style interviews. It's the antithesis of the shallow two-minute segments on cable TV and 30-second clips shared on social media.

      • Alexa9 months ago

        this. omg yes. it would really be something to get some real talk for once, not just soundbites and scripted. It's batty, we all know it's all smoke and mirrors and yet they keep pretending like it's this authentic performance or something. Such a weird cultural thing

    • Alexa10 months ago

      I can't call myself a fan but I'm endlessly fascinated by Joe Rogan, and I have enjoyed some of his podcasts. At the least he's an excellent interviewer skilled at getting his guests to open up. Interesting look at how he got where he is, and a little take on why it works, and what that means for his future

      • jeff
        Top reader this weekScout
        10 months ago

        You stole my scout! I was eager to read this but then left struggling with anything to really say about it since I already knew most of the history and felt like it was a pretty neutral assessment of Rogan.

        I would call myself a fan, but there's a bit of hesitation there since I probably only listen to an average of one episode per month. I think his sheer volume and relative diversity of content is why he is so successful. I couldn't care less about his MMA or comedian guests but there's always also a steady stream of interesting writers/scientists/academics/musicians/etc. to choose from as well.

        You're also right on about his interviewing skills and I feel like the author was too quick to dismiss the importance of the extremely long, unedited format. Editing doesn't have to equate to censorship for it to be a negative. We're awash in bite-sized, over-produced content so it makes sense that people would appreciate a real human conversation which is what he has with his guests.

        • Alexa9 months ago

          haha! i can't believe i nabbed it from you, that's usually my MO with Bills scouts lol.

          He's such a polarizer, I bet he has quite a few reluctant "fans" to be honest. Hard not to respect what he's built, and to admire his interviewing skills, but I don't have to like it all lol.

        • elioty10 months ago

          I think you’re spot on: the open conversational format and huge diversity of guests are both critical to the show’s success.

    • DellwoodBarker10 months ago

      Complex and Captivating 10 Read.

      He’s refreshing human within this read which means there are aspects I agree with and others I disagree with (I.e. the verbal treatment of transgender).

      This really stood out especially the Quote which Illuminates As Refreshingly Yeeessss:

      After Mr. Rogan suggested in the spring that young healthy people need not get vaccinated against the coronavirus — before later stressing that he is “not an anti-vaxx” person and shouldn’t be considered a medical authority, anyway — his comments drew condemnations from the Biden administration and Prince Harry, another Spotify podcaster. “If you say you disagree with me, I probably disagree with me too,” Mr. Rogan said in semi-self-defense. “I disagree with me all the time.”

      The episode crystallized a central tension in the show’s success: whether his megaphone carries with it a higher responsibility, one he has said he never wanted.

      Favorite Quote without a doubt here though:

      “Aspire to be the person you pretend to be,” Mr. Rogan counseled in one episode, “when you’re trying to get laid.”